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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2008, 09:29:16 PM »

Thanks everyone for the feedback perhaps I didn't explain myself well I have long believed in life after death, but these are thoughts I have I share from time to time. I think about thinks some times from my perspective other times from others perspective I can see were I might be misunderstood.
Hi Royce. Au Contraire, I think you communicated perfectly well. And I thank you for sharing these thoughts. I'm not seeing a misunderstanding here, my friend. You've sparked a wonderful thread of conversation. Wonderful! I thank you.
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2008, 09:44:59 PM »

Dyan, Thank you. In Earthly layman's terms, it really sucks not knowing.
When people like you, Tamara, and my reader say comforting things, it helps
me, because I realize you have a knowledge that I don't.

Anna, I'm sorry to hear about your nephew. Children are precious, but
I do have to believe that there is a reason for everything.

Tamara, Thank you for your insight. I realize that how things
are on the Earth are not the same in the spiritual realm. Horrible
things like WWII and 9/11 had to happen. It's hard to imagine that
God would let these things happen. I'm just a mortal soul, so it's
not for me to say. I would always like to think that there had to be
a Hell if there is a Heaven. Can there be one without the other?
Don't worry about "hiding"...*lol*. I enjoyed reading what you had
to say.

Heather, thank you for sharing your story. What I wouldn't give
to see my Mother like that. So, I'm glad that Rik got to see his Dad.

I think we are all enjoying what the other has to say, aren't we? I'm loving the forum lately. So many interesting energies blending here, like a new and tasty recipe. Celtic Knot, I think that everyone has the ability to "know." If you can quiet down the mind chatter, you too will probably discover that you know more than you think you know. That's what the site is about - empowerment. That's what the Spiritual Toolbox(TM) is about. That's what Tamara's free readings are about...pointing people in the direction their soul wants to go and the rest is up to them in terms of what they do with the imformation.

As to God allowing "bad" things to happen....ah...such a fascinating subject, really. I'm wondering how many people saw what I saw in the aftermath of 911? There was a scene there...it's not a frequent photo that is shown, to my knowledge...(I saw it exactly once) in the aftermath, there was one photo taken that was of two girders poking up out of the rubble. These were in the form of a cross. Now maybe the media didn't show this image very much, because there were so many other "interesting" things to be seen there, such as the "jumpers."

However.........the sign of the cross is and has always had a universal representation, which is very clear to probably everyone, regardless of belief systems. Most people know what the sign represents, even if they don't believe in such themselves. It's a universal symbol. My point is, that God did not create this 911. One of the greatest gifts we have been given is that of free will. We are free to create, to co-create. And with the gift of creation comes responsibility for choices. Anyone that has created a child understands that statement.

God does not allow or disallow bad things to happen. Everything is about choices. When we are willing to take responsibility for our choices is when we return to empowerment and forward moving energy. To do otherwise renders us as victims and also keeps us in duality consciousness.

This is what I'm talking about when I"m talking about integration of mind, body, and spirit. If you remember who you are, then the duality goes away, except for purposes of functioning in the illusion.

You are an immortal soul, CK. Immortal. Life goes on and on.
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« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2008, 09:51:56 PM »

Also, really why is it so horrible not knowing? Life is a healing journey meant to be savored in all it's apparent good and bad. It's a learning experience. It's a growth experience. If you "knew" everything about your life here, you would truly have no real purpose in being here.



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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2008, 10:24:21 PM »

I logged on here and saw that we had 666 posts. LOL! So I thought it apropos to discuss the question a few have asked about a place we call Hell - I actually have dreamt of such a place many times. I do believe there is a Hell, however, I believe it is also an illusion just like this earth reality is an illusion of sorts. It's a distorted world. So, when Tamara speaks of there not being such a place, it's true. In the real reality, there is no such place. I believe there is an illusionary world that is "hell."  I believe it was and is a "created" reality.; We do have the ability to create and to co-create. Is it such a stretch to believe that a fallen angel, who understood illusion very well, would be able to create such a place? It's not that far out of the park for me to understand that. You?
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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2008, 10:43:29 PM »

Also, really why is it so horrible not knowing? Life is a healing journey meant to be savored in all it's apparent good and bad. It's a learning experience. It's a growth experience. If you "knew" everything about your life here, you would truly have no real purpose in being here.




Thank you Dyan, that was beautiful .. how very true. Why would we even get up in the morning if we knew everything about our lives? No, it is not so horrible not knowing ... it is also what gives us hope during the bad times.

I noticed the 666 as well LOL!!!! I also noticed that "What is Angel Reading" had 444 views. This morning I sat up in bed suddenly because of anxiety and the clock said 4:44. LOL!!

Much love,
Anna. xx Grin

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Tamara, Thank you for your insight. I realize that how things
are on the Earth are not the same in the spiritual realm. Horrible
things like WWII and 9/11 had to happen. It's hard to imagine that
God would let these things happen. I'm just a mortal soul, so it's
not for me to say. I would always like to think that there had to be
a Hell if there is a Heaven. Can there be one without the other?
Don't worry about "hiding"...*lol*. I enjoyed reading what you had
to say.


Hi, CK,
Glad you are enjoying the time with us))))

Anna,Heather, thank you for sharing with us....
Mr.Paranormal, however I personally have taken it, thank you so much for starting this topic, as it brought beautiful discussion, isn't it? )))

Let us go a bit deeper on this, because it feels to me, it is important, and perhaps, if you would choose to shift your perspective from the one you have now towards the one, I would try to propose you, many things in your life would start falling into the place, like the pieces of puzzle coming together....

(Perhaps, I will still need to be hiding from eggs this time, as I needed to do that on many occasions in my life, trying to communicate these things, but anyway))) LOL)

1.Horrible things like WWII and 9/11 had to happen. It's hard to imagine that
God would let these things happen.

You see, of course from our linear, mortal mind perspective, from a perspective of our body, these things are indeed horrible.
But, from multi dimensional perspective, and from Higher realms perspective, things things are not horrible at all. Because, in a first place, at HOME, at our HOME, there are no labels. NONE. All is just is. All just exists.  There is no duality at HOME, which means there are no bad-good, hot-cold, high-low, etc, etc....
All just is. And most importantly, everything is just a lesson in love. Yes, the WWII & 9/11. Yes, lessons in love. Nobody was punished, and nobody was hit by chance.
These huge soul groups, with so many people, which died during the wars or 9/11, the huge soul groups, which lost their loved ones in that time, have chosen and agreed before they reincarnated to participate in these experiences and be at service to whole humanity. And not only the people who have died, but believe me, the bombers agreed to that as well....And how horrible it might sound in "Earthly" terms, the bombers of 9/11 were also at service for humanity.
You might read this in disbelief, thinking,t hat I am saying nonsense....But let go of judgement for a second, even though I know it is hard to do, and think of it....
How much did humanity learn by 9/11? How much impact all of this had on the lives of all humanity? The impact was incredible, especially, if you keep in mind the law of ripple effect, which tells us, that if 1 drop of rain falls somewhere in Antarktida, the grain of sand will move in Sahara?
How much compassion, forgiveness and love the people came to realise due to this 9/11? This was huge lesson in love....And the soul groups, which participated in this from both sides, were brave souls indeed, because they choose such a task, and because the succeeded to bring such an incredible message to the whole of humanity, which was then even multiplied by ripple effect?
These soul groups chose to serve whole of humanity, and that is a big task......
Please again, understand me right...I am far from telling that I think now everybody has to go and kill each other, or bomb or do I dont know what, in order to serve...Of course not, and of course in human minds, these are horrible things, but from a higher perspective it is really different.....
From higher perspective all these things, which happened, were lessons in love but not for 1 or several people, but for the whole of humanity.....And, most importantly, all these things happened by pre-life agreements of these huge soul groups, in order to be at service to humanity, and and for the growth of these particular soul groups as well of course.

And if, for a second, we think in this way, then you next question about God allowing this to happen, is answered and fading away.
Because our Mighty Creator, just gave us the possibility to learn  that ALL IS LOVE. There is nothing else, then LOVE existing, all the rest is just a big, huge illusion, but in order to understand that, we need to forget first what the LOVE is, we need to forget all about real forgiveness, real compassion, and forget  about the fact, that as all is love, we are also love. it is important. WE ARE LOVE. But to remember that, we are going through earthly reincarnations, where we search for love outside ourselves, we search for compassion and forgiveness outside ourselves, and as we grow, we come to realisation, that we are love, by learning through opposites. What is learning through opposites? We choose to experience complete lack of love for example, to then turn our attention inward and see, there is no lack of love, because we are love...How can we lack something, that we already are? By learning through opposites, we also learn to value Love even more....
At home, there is only love, so we come here, in order to remember it here, by learning through opposites, so we value it even more.
And the thing is, that HOME is not some place on the sky, really not....And our Almighty Creator is not some bearded man sitting on a huge throne  up there....
HOME is here, all around us, we simply do not see it or do not sense it, because we live in  linear time with our human mind....
HOME is within each of us, and not up there....And what is actually happening when we leave our Earthly body? We do not fly to the sky....We just remember it all again and we start seeing things which are real again, opposed to being in amnesia having our human body on us.....

Why would the idea of hell make it easier for you?
I suppose, because we label things, we judge things into good and bad. But that just does not exist..... All is just existing....It is not bad, not good, is just is.
And that is the reason, why there is no place like Hell, it is not necessary, as there are NO things to be punished....
We go to school, all of us go to school on our Earthly Journey.... and then we awaken from amnesia and look at HOME with our Guides & Angels, what we have learned, and what we did not learn, and then we choose the lessons for a next grade, and we return to learn those....
So, there is no need for punishment, no need at all......

Ultimately, everything is not as it seems on Earth. We live in a huge, big illusion.....And when the going gets tough - it is not a punishment, it is not God allowing something bad to happen to us, it is not that our Angels do not watch over us. It is just a lesson, which we chose to learn in this particular grade, by our own choice and by our own pre-life agreements.....

So, why then you think, that there cannot be Heaven without Hell? Heaven & Hell are mortal mind definitions of labels. One is good, and other is bad.
But at Home, as I will not be tired to repeat, and hope, you wont be tired to read, there are no definitions for anything. All is LOVE, and ALL JUST IS.
Simple, isn't it? ))))

Our need for judgement and labelling comes from our Ego, because when we judge someone as bad, thinking, och, hope you go to hell, then we boost our own Ego.
We then, feel stronger, because we then validate ourselves like you see, I would never ever do such a thing, so I am good...
If someone wronged us, then our Ego puts us in a victim position, which is in fact a very comfortable position, because then,  other person is bad, we are good, and och so much victim, so  being victim, we are entitled to be treated well....In this case Ego is really playing games of emotional manipulation.

But, if we remember, that ALL is LOVE, that WE ARE LOVE for that reason, and that ALL what is happening in the world and in our lives has been agreed before we reincarnated, and more of that, all what is happening are just lessons in love, which we have chosen ourselves, then we start to have a different life, then, day by day, we recreate the feeling of HOME within....Then we are free of judgement....And then, we feel and acknowledge, that we are love, as there is nothing else....
And then, the need for labelling and outer validation is just fading away.... And then, we stand in our full power of co-creation.....

Well, hope, my lengthy post will be helpful to somebody....


Love & Light, Tamara.
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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2008, 07:35:45 AM »

Tamara: This is very profound. Thank you.
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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2008, 08:03:34 AM »

Also, really why is it so horrible not knowing? Life is a healing journey meant to be savored in all it's apparent good and bad. It's a learning experience. It's a growth experience. If you "knew" everything about your life here, you would truly have no real purpose in being here.




Thank you Dyan, that was beautiful .. how very true. Why would we even get up in the morning if we knew everything about our lives? No, it is not so horrible not knowing ... it is also what gives us hope during the bad times.

I noticed the 666 as well LOL!!!! I also noticed that "What is Angel Reading" had 444 views. This morning I sat up in bed suddenly because of anxiety and the clock said 4:44. LOL!!

Much love,
Anna. xx Grin
LOL! Anna!
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2008, 05:24:47 PM »

Hi Dyan,

First, I have to say this is one of the best boards on these topics,
that I've come across. Much respect to you, Tamara, and any other moderators. Smiley
You all put together a very nice forum.

Yes, I know the metal cross from the WTC wreckage that you
mentioned. I loved that picture.

You'll have to excuse me, I and I'm sure many others, were
raised to believe that we are mere mortals, maybe in the human
body that's more accurate of a term.

Oh, Dyan! I agree with you. I don't want to know everything!!
I like life surprises. But there are certain topics, that yes, I'd
like clarity on, but other than that, I'd rather be surprised.

Re: Hell. While I don't believe in man with horns on his
head, holding a pitchfork, etc. I think, if one has the belief
that there is a Heaven, then doesn't there have to be a Hell?
Could you have one without the other?

Tamara, Thank you for your thoughts. That's a lot to take in
all it once. We (a collective we) all wonder what the other side is
like. Some of us fear it, some of us don't. Imagine having this
debate with an Athiest, they'd think we were crazy. Sometimes,
I wish I could live in a physical body forever, because I'm afraid
of what happens next. If the bad things in the world are meant to
happen, how come people before they reincarnate say - "Wait, a minute,
I don't want to be a hijacker. That will hurt many innocent people." for
example. It really is a lot to take in. But it's all going to happen to all of us,
sooner or later. If I reincarnated into this being that's me, then I obviously
went though this before. This is the stuff, I wish I knew.
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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2008, 06:03:03 PM »

Tamara, thank you so much ... very interesting and very much appreciated. No need to hide from eggs LOL! Tamara and Dyan, you are earth angels, I am sure.  Grin

Dyan, I seem to have a thing with numbers .. for a long time I used to see 11:11 or 1:11 LOL!!!!

CK, I couldn't agree more .. this is indeed a wonderful forum!!

Love to all,
Anna xx  Grin
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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2008, 09:33:29 PM »

Tamara, thank you so much ... very interesting and very much appreciated. No need to hide from eggs LOL! Tamara and Dyan, you are earth angels, I am sure.  Grin

Dyan, I seem to have a thing with numbers .. for a long time I used to see 11:11 or 1:11 LOL!!!!

CK, I couldn't agree more .. this is indeed a wonderful forum!!

Love to all,
Anna xx  Grin
Hi Anna: Thank you. You are very sweet. Yes, I do have a thing with numbers! LOL!
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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2008, 12:23:00 PM »

On the Heaven/Hell subject... I was raised Baptist, so of course was taught about Heavean and Hell for years.  Now, though, with my own study and belief system, I think of Heaven differently.  As Tamara mentioned earlier in this post thread, it's Home.  Plain and simple.  So, therefore, if we're all just going back home, there is no need for a literal hell. 

Just a thought.  Smiley

Love and blessings,
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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2008, 05:04:46 PM »

Hi Heather,

If only we could remember those moments before
our lives began...the world would definitely be a better
place if everyone had this knowledge. Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2008, 11:48:26 AM »

I totally enjoyed reading this post and all the experiences and sharing Cheesy

((Hugs to you all))


There has been much touched on that i want to speak about,i hope i remember everything lol Cheesy


Yes mrparanormal,energy transforms,and never ends. What do you think this energy is?

Well its us. The energy that the scientists discover is us in our non physical form. When we arent experiencing through out bodies,we return to our natural state of intelligent energy.

This energy is divine love. The one mind. The creator. Us.


This energy viberates very very fast. This is our natural divine state of being. When we want to experience the physical,viberations slow and become a physical creation.
We are the creator and the created. Ourselfs,and the creator also. Multidimensional and in full control.

Spiritual growth is, slowly shrugging off the layers of illusion and forgetfulness,and remembering this truth about who we really are.

You answered your own question,we dont end,we simply transform. Forever continuing as energy and all creation.

I think that was more along the lines you wanted yes? I believe this. But,i also know this Smiley


We are one energy and one mind. We can at any time chose to open to this knowledge that we forgot at birth. As dyan said,what would be the point if we remembered everything. We choose to forget to get a real experience.

I died. And if i could truley impart what reality is,i think everybody would be laughing and smiling. I certainly havent remembered it all,my human mind would pop lol. And also the terrible longing to go back,i grieved for a long time. But im getting ahead of myself.


When your going to die you know it. It almost descened on you. A total knowing. You would think thats scary. It isnt,oh wow how peaceful you feel. All pain and heaviness lifts away and you feel so light and carefree Cheesy


I was at home,in bed. And sober i may add lol. The cause of death isnt important. I could see in my mind a still picture of 3 angels. The picture flashed,they were closer,it flashed again and there they were.


And then im in the one mind of light. Iam energy. And iam so loved,and iam this love.


Iam used to talking with thought as i do it when i talk to angels here. You know when you talk to yourself in your mind?..thats what its like. Course they use images too.

I had kept a very light coating of myself,but i was totally loved and relaxed. My twin flame was communicating at the time by phone. Ofcourse she was terrified, she had felt me slipping away. I felt compassion and i looked over to the direction id come. You dont feel negative emotions there they arent real.


I was aware of angels presence in the light mind of love with me,they didnt have form though. I asked if i could go back for my twin flame. Its hard to explain the laid back feel there. You cant make a wrong choice. In that sense what you do doesnt matter Cheesy

I asked for my last door back,because i remembered reading that we have 3 doors to return back to a life. I knew by feeling that this was my last door.


Everything was love and peace and acceptance as i waited.


Then i had this falling sensation,and the lower i went the more greif i felt as the love was blanketed by the layers. The pain in my body returned. And ''death'' receded. I knew then,that i would live.


We are our own creator's if you expect a hell,or a fluffy cloud,or a waiting room thats more then likely what you will find when you die. Thats why experiences differ.


Not to sound dis respectful but we are the one mind,the creator. When 'bad' or 'good' things happen they are our creations. Create them conciously,or unconciously,they are our creations. There is only source,which we are. We have nothing else to blame.


Besides there is no blame,judgement or set way. That is a human way of thinking.


Life isnt inflicted. It is created by us. Simple Cheesy


Ok i think thats it. Lol il probably pop back later with something else i remember lol Cheesy


Hugs and blessings


Angel Cheesy
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2008, 11:57:10 AM »

Oh! I love your little angel card here! Reminds me of Michelle's very special angel cards for children. I recently had the pleasure of helping her with them in a very small way. For those that are interested, you can explore further at Sanctuary of Angels. http://www.sanctuaryofangels.com

But, I digress...Someone sent me this article and it's long so I'm going to post it in pieces. Here's the first part and the copyright notice is below. Hope you enjoy.

With August being a month for much celestial activity, there will be a meteor shower on August 12th. With a bit of a window around its arrival, the evening of the 12th of August and the morning of the 13th of August will bring forth the maximum of the Perseid meteor shower. Up to 80 shooting stars may be visible each hour! And then on August 16th, we will experience a full moon lunar eclipse.

These celestial events will greatly support our arrival into the new and are bringing with them some awesome and very exciting energy. The total solar eclipse cleared the way for a brand new beginning. For several weeks before its arrival on August 1st, we were bottle-necked and sharing space with some very unpleasant energies indeed. The light of the new had not yet arrived, and much seemed to be going awry with seemingly out of control denser energies having their way.

The solar eclipse opened the way for a new beginning. It enabled things to begin a forward movement, for energies to begin connecting again or anew, and even perhaps enabling us to feel good once again. If we had the opportunity to stay in our sacred spaces, we could easily now find immense peace, deep sleep, a new protection from these mischievous energies, and even perhaps a sense that we had completed some challenging, stressful, and deeply troubling phase. A time for rejuvenation was much needed and thus, this opportunity was given, if only for a brief period of time before new manifestations began arriving, along with more energies delivering a very powerful punch, rocking us to the core, in the months to come.

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