Is there life after death?

[mrparanormal]

I  was just thinking about the age old question this morning while cooking breakfast, is there life after death? The atheist will tell you no, the born again believer will tell you yes, my favorite is science who most I know say there is no life after death, while teaching there is seemingly unaware they teach it. At anyrate I was thinking how does a person really know life afte death is real sure many believe it, many can give long lecture they believe proves it, but is this knowing its real? or believing its real? Me personally I have always believed there was life after death atleast after I quit being an athiest, but I know that I believe not that I know, so I wonder how would I go about knowing.I think the first question to ask here might be what is life exactly? is it our awareness? or thoughts? our bodies? our consciousness? Certianly there are no shortage of theories about what life is, for me its concsious aware thought energy

I percieve myself to be concious aware thought enrgy residingin a flesh and blood body a flesh and blood body that absolutly must me as its host to survive .

Science teaches us that no part of our body moves or functions without a prior command from the brain to do so be it a concsious or unconcsious command the body cannot function without this command
I break away from science when it comes to the idea the brain does its work alone, I personnaly believe the brain is another vessel we use, although we may have preprogramed some things to function automaticly, and the brain acting like our own built in organic computer activate preset programs and carrying out commands and storing information. we are at the keyboard and mouse of the brain telling it too . So if I am correct about what life is then. my next question might be what do we know about energy, science tells us energy can be niether created or destoyed it can only change forms, if that be true then life must continue whether the body does or not, more over though this also means we have all always existed whether we know it or not in one form or another.We may not have always been concsious aware energy but we have always existed as energy none the less perhaps gaing awareness and becoming concsious and aware as we changed form. the more I think about this the more convinced I become that not only do we live after we leave our body but we lived before we entered our body as well.I would love others thoughts on this.

[Dyan]

Hi Rocye. You've got some very good questions here and very deep thinking. I know for sure there is life after we pass from this physical experience and of course life is and has always been. Yes, we continue on and yes we have always done so. That's why "past lives" really is a misnomer. They are only "past lives" in our concept of time being linear, which of course it isn't. Life is on a continuum.

My dad died recently. He was terrified of death. Always was, as far back as I can remember. In April, he died unexpectedly and very peacefully in his sleep. I had two dreams from him shortly thereafter. Neither of these were dreams really. They were more like traveling. Anyway, the 2nd one, I went looking for him. I located his energy finally.

He was in this room with a lot of other people. They were busy. They were happy. He knew all these people. They were catching up, deciding where and what to do from here. There was this amazing new awareness of who they all were to each other and the roles they had all played in each other lives.

He finally saw me standing there quietly observing. He was so happy to see me and asked "How did you find me?!" He was incredulous that I was there.  I told him it wasn't that easy. I had looked around the entire universe. He laughed. And I told him I was just checking up on him to make sure he was ok.

He replied, "This is nothing like I thought it would be."  We both laughed. He had spent an entire lifetime being terrified of this crossing over. He said he hadn't yet located my mother. They were focusing on his smaller life lessons first.

We had some other communcations before someone else noticed I was in there. They were rather surprised, actually. There was some identification made of my energy. Then there was this concern that I was not supposed to be in there. So, they told me I had to go. They didn't say, "Go back." They said "You aren't supposed to be in here."

It's perhaps interesting to note, that none of this communication was verbal. These communcations are with thoughts. And they are instantaneous and sort of simultaneous. That's the best way I can describe it.

Yes, I believe there is life after we leave this physical earthly incarnation. I don't just base it on the story I've just told, but also, we would be completely in our egos if we believed that with all these planets and galaxies out there, that we are the only place life as we know it exists.

Life is multi-dimensional and continuous.

[Anna]

Hello Dyan and Royce!!

Dyan, thank you so very much for sharing this. This is absolutely amazing and how wonderful to have seen your father again and know he is happy and at peace.

There is no doubt that there is life after death. The word "death" really should not exist because it is really just a transition. I have never had a fear of death. I had a near death experience when I was 5 years old ... perhaps this has something to do with it.

When my 2 year old nephew died in an accident several years ago, his spirit came to visit me and my mother as a sort of final farewell. I felt an energy in my body that became quite hot for the time that my little nephew was in the room.

We are all just spiritual beings having a human experience.

Hugs and kisses,
Anna. xx

[Celtic_Knot]

Dyan,

Your post about your Dad was inspiring.

I've been trying to find a spiritual forum with no luck. (Well, I do have to give
the one a fair shake, but I digress) I'll still do an introductory
thread, but I feel compelled to respond to your post first.

To make a long story short my Mother had clinical depression and OD'd on
her medication. I wasn't the nicest person in the world when it came to my
mom's condition. I was ashamed for a very long time about her mental illness.

How were you able to talk to your Dad in dreams? I have had dreams
with my Mom in them, but NOT life altering dreams. I can't believe
that people who commit suicide go to Hell. (Hitler and other evil souls
like that, maybe). I hope my Mom is in Heaven.

I did an angel reading and my Mom was proud of me. But I
really wish I knew more. How did my Mom transition? Is she happy?
I really wish I knew. Do we see each other again in the new place?

Thank you to all for answering.

[Dyan]

Celtic Knot: First of all, I'm glad you're here. I hope you find this forum very different.  To address your post:

First of all, the issue with your mother: There is here a reflection of fear. It's ok, CK. It's ok. If you begin to view things in a different way, such as all is a lesson in love, with oh so many layers, then your healing can begin.

I was able to locate my father in my dreams perhaps because I understand and actually live in the alternate dimensions. It really wasn't easy to find him. It was like PI work. LOL! But the day he died I also had a "dream." This was him telling me of his death, how, why, and where he went. So, I didn't start off with any mystery there.  He had already communicated to me very clearly. And why? Only because I was/am an open channel. He knew I could hear him. You know, I'm a "psychic." That definition has become a bit distorted, but that's where I digress....LOL... The point is that I didn't consciously try to communicate with him. He was telling me so that I would tell the others. He knew I could hear. And he knew I would deliver the message. That's all. Telephone operator. LOL!

CK, people that commit suicide suddenly get that they haven't changed a thing. No they do not go to hell. They come back to what some might consider hell. :-) They simply come back somewhere to the exact same lessons. That's all. No, no, no, they certainly do not go to hell. But they do come back to a place where they face the same lessons, same challenges, and then the choice whether they will stay and finish, or go. It's a choice.

As to your questions about your mother...you know what? It's a reading, really. Someone could tell you general things such as sure, she is fine, and yes you will see each other again, but truly, truly, it's a reading to delve into the patterns of the soul group.

The thing is, I'm tuning into your situation now...lightly...just to try to help you a little bit along the path....she is of course, fine. She is in a place similar to where I found my dad. Soul groups still deciding what to do and what lessons in love they will do together and when and how. She is in a place of details....very similar. Maybe that's why we're connecting here...But yes, soul groups always connect again. They are never disconnected. Not ever. Yes, you will see each other again.

Happy? Yes. There is regret here, however, that she is now examining. There is regret about choices and behavior and she is making a review still of how those choices impacted others. I believe the thing for you to know is that sometimes people choose lessons here which may seem one way to someone else looking in, but are necessary for that particular person to progress. So it may look one way, but the most important thing to understand is that things are not always what they seem. To me that is lesson #1. Things are not always what they seem.

[Celtic_Knot]

Hi Dyan, (I love the spelling of your name, btw)

I have a few messages going on different boards, and another topic,
My uneasiness was picked up. It's true, just as much as my fear was on
this one. I'll always own a pattern, it's how we grow as people and learning
is a life-long process.

I agree with you on the definition of psychic. It's a pet peeve watching
TV (not the best place for realism) - and they stereotype readers something
awful. It might be why my reader (a very nice lady) doesn't like the term.

I'm glad that we'll all get to see my Mom again. Especially my sister.
I want to tell her, that I love her and that I'm sorry.

I also have a belief in reincarnation. Thank you for answering my
question.


 

[Dyan]

Dyan,

Your post about your Dad was inspiring.

I've been trying to find a spiritual forum with no luck. (Well, I do have to give
the one a fair shake, but I digress) I'll still do an introductory
thread, but I feel compelled to respond to your post first.

To make a long story short my Mother had clinical depression and OD'd on
her medication. I wasn't the nicest person in the world when it came to my
mom's condition. I was ashamed for a very long time about her mental illness.

How were you able to talk to your Dad in dreams? I have had dreams
with my Mom in them, but NOT life altering dreams. I can't believe
that people who commit suicide go to Hell. (Hitler and other evil souls
like that, maybe). I hope my Mom is in Heaven.

I did an angel reading and my Mom was proud of me. But I
really wish I knew more. How did my Mom transition? Is she happy?
I really wish I knew. Do we see each other again in the new place?

Thank you to all for answering.

And I forgot to mention, Celtic Knot, I am sorry to hear of the passing of your mother. My condolences to you. She is at peace, she does watch over you, and wants you to know she is just fine, as I said before. And yes, indeed, she is proud of you.

[Dyan]

Hello Dyan and Royce!!

Dyan, thank you so very much for sharing this. This is absolutely amazing and how wonderful to have seen your father again and know he is happy and at peace.

There is no doubt that there is life after death. The word "death" really should not exist because it is really just a transition. I have never had a fear of death. I had a near death experience when I was 5 years old ... perhaps this has something to do with it.

When my 2 year old nephew died in an accident several years ago, his spirit came to visit me and my mother as a sort of final farewell. I felt an energy in my body that became quite hot for the time that my little nephew was in the room.

We are all just spiritual beings having a human experience.

Hugs and kisses,
Anna. xx

Hi Anna! It's nice to hear from you. Thank you for sharing. I am sorry to hear of your nephew's passing. Awwww. Certainly he is at peace. Death can be challenging, but particularly so when we're talking about a small child. Awwww. Sometimes hard to make earthly sense of, but just know there was some sort of agreement to pass on at such a young age. The child had completed his mission, however brief. I'm so glad that you got to say goodbye.

[Angellistener]

Dyan,

Your post about your Dad was inspiring.

I've been trying to find a spiritual forum with no luck. (Well, I do have to give
the one a fair shake, but I digress) I'll still do an introductory
thread, but I feel compelled to respond to your post first.

To make a long story short my Mother had clinical depression and OD'd on
her medication. I wasn't the nicest person in the world when it came to my
mom's condition. I was ashamed for a very long time about her mental illness.

How were you able to talk to your Dad in dreams? I have had dreams
with my Mom in them, but NOT life altering dreams. I can't believe
that people who commit suicide go to Hell. (Hitler and other evil souls
like that, maybe). I hope my Mom is in Heaven.

I did an angel reading and my Mom was proud of me. But I
really wish I knew more. How did my Mom transition? Is she happy?
I really wish I knew. Do we see each other again in the new place?

Thank you to all for answering.

Hi CK,
I would like to add something to post of Dyan, which is perfect already....
You see, CK, there is NO place like Hell...
Just unexisting thing.... There is HOME, which is only Love & Light, and when we are hope, there are no punishments given, none of them....
And perhaps, I will say something, from which I will get many rotten tomatoes on my head, but Hitler is also not in Hell, simply because there is not such a place as hell...And even Hitler, or murdeners, or bombers or rapist, they all do not go to hell....They have chosen to learn all these lessons, and when they return home, as Dyan said, they are in a place, where they review their lives, see what the learned, what they did not learn, they examine all their choices and choose together with their guides & angels, what would be the next steps in the next reincarnation to learn the lessons, which the soul chooses to learn. But there is no punishment, whatsover. Just, if we do not learn th elessons in some lifetime, then, we will return in the next life time and will have to deal with unlearned lessons....
There is law of karma, which is NOT the law of any punishment, as it is seen so often and totally mistakingly. Law of karma is just law of cause and effect, the law of balance. And this is the reason, why all of us, all without exception, have the same lessons to learn, and we all hve been murdeners, rapists, great artists, great healers, whatever you can think of....We alternate the roles, in order to learn all teh lessons available on Earth.

Also, please do realise, all the life challenges are planned by us before we reincarnate. And yes, murdener and Hitler, also planned their challenges, and believe me, they also have learned and grown in their life times, and ultimately, they also had lessons in love, even if in Earthly terms, what Hitler did for example seems and is horrible....But ultimately, these were all lessons of love, which were planned by soul groups beforehand....

OK, going to hide now, not to get too many tomatoes on my head now)))

Light & Angelic Blessings, Tamara.

[HeatherC]

On the subject of life after death, I'd like to share an experience that my husband had a few days ago.

A bit of history though... my husband (Rik) had a very difficult childhood, he never had a mother, and his dad was involved in many illegal things.  Drugs, etc, in and out of prison quite a bit.  My husband spent many years in foster care, and was left alone much of the time as a very young child.  Because of this, he's dealt with conflicting emotions when it comes to how he feels about his father.  Well, as an adult and since we've gotten married, his eyes have been opened quite a bit about the spiritual realm.  He still doesn't admit he believes, but he's very clairvoyant and has had enough experiences where he knows - but just won't admit.   I never met his father while he was alive on this plane, but for some really awesome reason, he comes to me often in mediatation.  (I figure it's because I'm less emotionally blocked than Rik is in this situation?)  He's even helped me get through a tough time in my marriage because he was able to tell me about how Rik deals with things in his mind, etc.   I'm aware of how much Rik's dad is with him since he's passed on, it's very obvious to me, even if my dear husband still battles with it emotionally. 

Rik drives huge 260 ton haul trucks for a coal mine out in my area, and works graveyard shifts.  The other night, about 3am, he looked in his rearview mirrow, and guess who he saw sitting right next to him.  You've got it, his dad.  Clear as day, in living color.  Of course it scared the wits out of him, but I thought it was brilliant... and proof to him that his dad is with him often.   Just shows us that spirits keep quite a sense of humor and work on their own time, not ours.   

Light and blessings,
Heather

[Anna]

Thank you so very much Dearest Dyan!! ((((HUGS))))

Yes, it was a very, very difficult time ... I am glad my little nephew is at peace and find comfort in knowing that he was only meant to be here for a short time. In the time he was here, he brought such joy into our lives. I am so sorry for the loss of your father Dyan, seeing him again must have been very comforting to you. I am glad I was able to say goodbye to little Alex as well.

Tamara: Thank you so very, very much. No, I am not throwing tomatoes at you at all LOL!!!!

Love and Hugs
Anna xx

[Celtic_Knot]

Dyan, Thank you. In Earthly layman's terms, it really sucks not knowing.
When people like you, Tamara, and my reader say comforting things, it helps
me, because I realize you have a knowledge that I don't.

Anna, I'm sorry to hear about your nephew. Children are precious, but
I do have to believe that there is a reason for everything.

Tamara, Thank you for your insight. I realize that how things
are on the Earth are not the same in the spiritual realm. Horrible
things like WWII and 9/11 had to happen. It's hard to imagine that
God would let these things happen. I'm just a mortal soul, so it's
not for me to say. I would always like to think that there had to be
a Hell if there is a Heaven. Can there be one without the other?
Don't worry about "hiding"...*lol*. I enjoyed reading what you had
to say.

Heather, thank you for sharing your story. What I wouldn't give
to see my Mother like that. So, I'm glad that Rik got to see his Dad.

[mrparanormal]

Thanks everyone for the feedback perhaps I didn't explain myself well I have long believed in life after death, but these are thoughts I have I share from time to time. I think about thinks some times from my perspective other times from others perspective I can see were I might be misunderstood.

[Anna]

Thank you so much CK .. I too am very sorry to hear about your mother and Heather, thank you also for sharing your story .. amazing.
Royce, thank you for starting this topic .. whichever way it was taken, Dyan and Tamara have shared some wonderful knowledge with all of us and we have read some very inspiring experiences from others.

Much Love,
Anna. xx

[Dyan]

On the subject of life after death, I'd like to share an experience that my husband had a few days ago.

A bit of history though... my husband (Rik) had a very difficult childhood, he never had a mother, and his dad was involved in many illegal things.  Drugs, etc, in and out of prison quite a bit.  My husband spent many years in foster care, and was left alone much of the time as a very young child.  Because of this, he's dealt with conflicting emotions when it comes to how he feels about his father.  Well, as an adult and since we've gotten married, his eyes have been opened quite a bit about the spiritual realm.  He still doesn't admit he believes, but he's very clairvoyant and has had enough experiences where he knows - but just won't admit.   I never met his father while he was alive on this plane, but for some really awesome reason, he comes to me often in mediatation.  (I figure it's because I'm less emotionally blocked than Rik is in this situation?)  He's even helped me get through a tough time in my marriage because he was able to tell me about how Rik deals with things in his mind, etc.   I'm aware of how much Rik's dad is with him since he's passed on, it's very obvious to me, even if my dear husband still battles with it emotionally. 

Rik drives huge 260 ton haul trucks for a coal mine out in my area, and works graveyard shifts.  The other night, about 3am, he looked in his rearview mirrow, and guess who he saw sitting right next to him.  You've got it, his dad.  Clear as day, in living color.  Of course it scared the wits out of him, but I thought it was brilliant... and proof to him that his dad is with him often.   Just shows us that spirits keep quite a sense of humor and work on their own time, not ours.   

Light and blessings,
Heather

Hi Heather. This is such a wonderful story! Thank you.